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Post by quicksilver-wsr » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:09 pm

Back then, John had not long quit the motorsport industry to start full-time as a self-employed modelmaker working from home.

Prior to that, among other things, he'd worked for Jaguar on their successful Le Mans Group C campaign, under Ross Brawn, which of course was crowned with overall victory. John didn't just work on Jag's windtunnel models, he worked on the actual race-car bodywork patterns. He was a pattern-maker by trade and so was his father before him.

I'm still in touch with John myself from time to time. As you say, he's one of life's nice guys as well as being a superb modelmaker. Few realise that masters like him don't make exact scale models. The trick is to exaggerate some features whilst diminishing others, so as to achieve the correct "look".

It's a skill very few have.

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Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:51 pm

Caught a snippet of the kids' news programme earlier about someone in a jet dragster breaking a record today but then couldn't find it in the news. Didn't catch his name but l didn't dream it either.
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Post by rob565uk » Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:39 pm


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Post by malcolm uk » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:13 pm

Some history regarding Split Second.

This car was built by Primetime Land Speed Engineering for speed record work in the late nineties. Standing start MSA National British records were set in June 1999 over 1/4 mile and half kilo. In July 2006 inspite of very fast one way speeds the car could not complete the second pass on flying start records at Fairford. Fastest flying start 1/4 mile (one way remember) was 329.11 mph. This event was an MSA National Britsh outright speed record attempt. Peak speed was in excess of 331.592 mph. Split Second is the fastest jet car to be timed in the UK.

New owner (2007/8) Julian Webb has been learning about and handling the car on demonstrations at drag racing events. He entered the UK Timing Association (UKTA) autumn records event at Elvington, near York last weekend. He was guided by previous owner and outright British National speed record holder, Colin Fallows.

Julian made standing start 1/4 mile runs on the Saturday and then flying start runs on the Sunday. He soon learnt that record setting/breaking is not easy. There are videos on social media showing some of the runs he made.

[Attending with Julian was drag racer Lee Gallimore who has started a project known as the 'Black Country Bullit' which will see a British built twin engined jet car challenge the UK record speeds (Elvington or Pendine) and give Lee a possibility of running very fast at Bonneville].
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Post by Terminator » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:49 pm

Hi Bill/Malcolm all good information there Malcolm however you seem to have overlooked who made up the Primetime team and perhaps Bill will recognize the names more than the records attained.. Mark Newby was the driver of Split Second and Colin Fallows drove Vampire.Vampire being the car Hamster went on to destroy and nearly killed himself in the process. With only himself to blame. Can't name all the support team but I do remember fondly our times assisting Colin and Mark at Elvington bird strikes and all. Oh yes Donald Campbells Bluebird K7 wasn't the only projectile to be hit by a bird approaching 300 m.p.h : ) I also remember very well Mark holding the car on the brakes winding Split Seconds engine up. The runway was vibrating under my feet and being asked to hold something I must have been a little to close as he shot away as it suddenly got very hot and loud :shock:

Anyway Bill if you recall we did and exchange with Colin and Mark involving and ejector seat that Paul and I collected or delivered to/at Bruntingthorpe during shakedown runs of Split Second in the early days of the project. Malcolm also in attendance. I think you then exchanged the seat for and engine possibly but can't quite recall how that one went. I may have the relevant facts but not necessarily in the right order :lol: :lol:
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Post by Mike Bull » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:01 am

Terminator wrote:Vampire being the car Hamster went on to destroy and nearly killed himself in the process. With only himself to blame.
That's rather unfair on Hammond, isn't it? It was hardly his- or anyone's- fault that the tyre blew.

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Post by Renegadenemo » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:33 am

I read the accident report. It said that a piece of wire from a big rotary brush used to clean the runway had penetrated the tyre horizontally between the carcass and the tread causing it to de-laminate. The short pieces of brush-bristle don't affect an aircraft tyre but the thin, high-speed tyre on the car was compromised.
I also heard that Mr Hammond was being something of a know-it-all that day and was not taking proper heed of his instructions and that this may have had a bearing on the outcome but that was just heresay and I'm happy to be called out on that one...
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Post by Mike Bull » Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:59 am

The HSE report says quite the opposite...

http://www.hse.gov.uk/search/search-res ... gsc.page=1

Hammond comes out of that rather well, I'd say.

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Post by Renegadenemo » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:33 pm

There you go - that's heresay for you.
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Post by malcolm uk » Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:23 pm

I had forgotten that it was the 9th anniversary of the RH event on Sunday. Might though explain why I was so edgy and critical of anyone suggesting that when running the jet car the driver took a long time to get ready.

The HSE did not change their draft report, which all parties involved were allowed to see.

I presume the edited footage of the TG event is somewhere on line for those who wish to see it.

All I would add is that run 6 does give some understanding of how alert drivers of fast open wheelled vehicles have to be at all times.

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