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Post by quicksilver-wsr » Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:08 pm

An interesting aside to the "twin-engined Railton" story ...

In the early 1990s, a chap with no connections to the speed-record scene offered to sell me the full set of original drawings for this car!

He offered to fax me a full list through and I remember the fax machine here practically ran out of paper because there were reams and reams of it ... each drawing carefully referenced.

Of course, I didn't have the money. But I've still got that list tucked away somewhere, fading with age on one of those rolls of shiny fax paper.

I wonder what became of that little lot? They must still be out there somewhere.

A crying shame, I recall feeling then, that they couldn't be reunited with the car itself.

With the car and all of the original drawings in the same place, maybe ... just maybe ... there'd be someone with the get-up-and-go to get that lovely car running again.

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Post by f1steveuk » Thu Nov 18, 2010 8:02 pm

Nigel, that wasn't Eric was it? He still has all the drawings for the 1935 Blue Bird (well as many as you need to convert the 33 to the 35 version) and I'm sure he had the Railton drawings as well, and may well still have them.
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Post by quicksilver-wsr » Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:50 pm

f1steveuk wrote:Nigel, that wasn't Eric was it? He still has all the drawings for the 1935 Blue Bird (well as many as you need to convert the 33 to the 35 version) and I'm sure he had the Railton drawings as well, and may well still have them.
The name doesn't ring a bell, Steve - but I can't swear to it. Until the fax surfaces again here (it's buried deep) I won't be able to check. But if your guy "Eric" had some involvement or interest in motor-racing, there's an outside chance.

I say that because at the time I encountered this chap I was on the lookout for some spares for a 1970s Formula 1 car owned by a friend of mine. In passing, I mentioned to this fellow my interest in speed-records and that's when he asked me out of the blue if I'd be interested in buying his full set of drawings for the Railton Mobil Special. I nearly fell off my chair!

He didn't seem to have any special interest in these drawings. He seemed to be somewhat dispassionate about them, beyond their financial value.

I hope you're sitting down when I tell you the price he wanted ...

£30,000!

Does that sound like your guy Eric?

I couldn't figure out how this chap had got possession of these drawings in the first place, but didn't like to ask. I felt it was a pity that a collection like this was in the hands of someone who only seemed to be interested in the price he could get for them.

I knew the asking price was way beyond the budget of any speed-record enthusiasts I knew, so have never mentioned this story to anyone before today.

When that fax next surfaces, I'll give you a shout.

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Post by Pullman99 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:24 am

Hi to you both. I think that we maybe need to start a new thread on this (Mr Bull permitting of course) as it is now well beyond the topic of the CN7 book!

Eric Brooklander (I think)? I noticed that he was advertising the Railton drawings in about 1993 and I did obtain a list as well. Need to search that out as I should still have it. I telephoned him and I think the story was that he had rescued them from a skip at T&T. Didn't know that he had the Blue Bird drawings as well. Supposedly - again - the NMM were supposed to be on top of this kind of thing. Anyway, I was interested to know what he had and I also cointacted what was then called The Museum of Science & Industry in Birmingham. They stated that not only would they not have the funds but were not interested anyway. Not only that, but they queried why I was alerting them to this (as in "what business is it of yours?) despite the fact that I had previously had some dialogue with the museum over exchanging exhibits with The Patrick Collection (also in Birmingham) I had also arranged through Bridgestone, in 1986, the loan of Mike Thackwell's 1985 F 3000 Championship runner-up Ralt RB20 (2nd to Christain Danner's March 85B) that Bridgestone had retained for promotional use so that the museum could exhibit it - in a "development of motorsport" sort of context - alongside the "Blitzen" Benz that they had on loan for many years. Both cars were paraded (on transporters) as part of the City's promotion for the forthcoming Birmingham Superprix. I was a bit put out by their reaction!
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Post by Mike Bull » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:25 am

Enough with the digs at me about moderation/keeping on topic etc please.

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Post by Pullman99 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:34 am

Mike Bull wrote:Enough with the digs at me about moderation/keeping on topic etc please.
Sorry. Only kidding. And I haven't mentioned the Z word all day! :lol:
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Post by Mike Bull » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:43 am

Threads can go as off topic as they like, as the natural 'conversation' flows. Similar threads, or more likely a new thread someone creates when we already have an existing one on the same subject, can be merged, but I find that splitting existing threads off into new ones gets a lot messier, and is best just left alone. People interested in what's being said will follow the chat and know where it is, etc. I can of course edit the title of this thread to incorporate the new topics of chat- any suggestions?

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Post by Renegadenemo » Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:04 pm

Hi to you both. I think that we maybe need to start a new thread on this (Mr Bull permitting of course) as it is now well beyond the topic of the CN7 book!
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Hi to you both. I think that we maybe need to start a new thread on this (Mr Bull permitting of course) as it is now well beyond the topic of the CN7 book!
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Post by f1steveuk » Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:30 pm

Well still off thread (because I'm like that!!)

Eric Skiegley or something like that, he had a project call Brooklander, so that sounds right. Last time I saw him he was at a talk I was giving at Brooklands, and had some of the '35 drawings with him. He certainly wanted lots of money, because his project was to either buy the '35 car, or build a new one at Brooklands from those drawings. Politely? A very odd chap! But very passionate about the subject.
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