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Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:32 am
by mtskull
quicksilver-wsr wrote:
Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:32 am
Back in 2006, I was having an in-depth medical exam courtesy of a doctor who'd been involved in examining victims of the Kegworth crash. He told me that a high proportion of the victims he examined had been killed by glass duty-free booze bottles flying from the overhead lockers and striking them on the backs of their heads.

Not a nice thought - since, if true, this would and should have been preventable - but I thought I'd check the story on the web just now and, sure enough, "All but one overhead locker sprang open and luggage flew through the air, causing head injuries to almost every passenger, and killing some of them."

Interesting. This discussion moved me to read through the AAIB report again. It mentions that, although witnesses recalled that some overhead lockers came open immediately before the crash, in fact all but one of the lockers actually separated from the airframe at the second impact.
The same report states the number of people showing evidence of head injury from a blow from behind as 17.
True, nearly everybody suffered head injuries but these were mostly attributable to impact with the seat in front.

It never ceased to amaze me that more survived than died in that crash; as it was, a combination of good design (fuel tanks which mostly maintained their integrity) and good fortune (the fuel tank that did rupture was empty, also the fire services arrived In time to put out a fire before it could spread), prevented the wreck becoming an inferno, which doesn't bear thinking about.

Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:42 pm
by Richie
There is a lot to be said about fate.


it always crops up when surveying collision scenes ;)

Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:56 pm
by sbt
mtskull wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:32 am
It never ceased to amaze me that more survived than died in that crash; as it was, a combination of good design (fuel tanks which mostly maintained their integrity) and good fortune (the fuel tank that did rupture was empty, also the fire services arrived In time to put out a fire before it could spread), prevented the wreck becoming an inferno, which doesn't bear thinking about.
Another factor was the rapid intervention from a large number of organisations, including a number of 'passing motorists', some of whom who entered the aircraft, who gave immediate aid to the casualties and assisted in their evacuation. Apparently this resulted in adjustments to policies regarding management of the public at disasters.

Oh, and Kegworth is far from being the only 'crew shut down the wrong engine' accident there has ever been.

Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 9:46 pm
by Mike Bull
After getting on for nine months on the ground, PA474 finally lifted off back into the air at Duxford this evening after her major service...

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:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:14 pm
by Mike Bull

Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:02 pm
by Mike Bull
A P-51 made an emergency landing at Duxford today, putting down into a neighbouring field and narrowly avoiding the M11...

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Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:30 am
by Mike Bull
The Mustang coming down yesterday-

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Apparently he radioed that he had an engine failure, knew that he wouldn't make the runway and so immediately headed for the field, retracting the gear as he did so to reduce the risk of it digging in/flipping over.

Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:08 am
by Mike Bull
Doesn't get any better for the poor Mustang-

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Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:14 pm
by conistoncollie
Standing behind a 737 as it takes off has ended unfortunately for a lady on Sint Maarten today

Re: The Vulcan XH558 & General Aviation Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:20 pm
by quicksilver-wsr
conistoncollie wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:14 pm
Standing behind a 737 as it takes off has ended unfortunately for a lady on Sint Maarten today
I'm unaware of the specific circumstances on this occasion, but I have seen some very nasty injuries resulting from folks there not showing sufficient respect for the power of these planes in such close proximity.

I just wish, for their sake and the sake of their poor families, that they'd use some common sense.

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/new ... 38561.html

Nigel