Shoes and Wedges

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Shoes and Wedges

Post by f1steveuk » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:23 pm

Sooner or later K7 is going to have to have her shoes/wedges re-produced. Has anyone contacted The Vickers works in Cross Gates, Leeds, or Vinters (part of Rolls-Royce I think) to see if they retained copies of the drawings?
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Re: Shoes and Wedges

Post by Pullman99 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:45 pm

Hi Sreve!

I've been wondering about this issue too. When I first met with Ken Norris - at Bournemouth - he showed me a planing shoe section that he had retained and I was amazed by just how small an area the planing surface was. Presumably there is a way to check if this item and/or drawings have been kept safe somewhere? Also, how mamy changes to the shoes were made during K7's career and especially after the Orpheus was fitted?
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Re: Shoes and Wedges

Post by alslad » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:44 am

f1steveuk wrote:Sooner or later K7 is going to have to have her shoes/wedges re-produced. Has anyone contacted The Vickers works in Cross Gates, Leeds, or Vinters (part of Rolls-Royce I think) to see if they retained copies of the drawings?
I'm afraid the Barnbow works at Crossgates has long gone, Steve. The buildings are still there (and I think still owned by Vickers) but they are being used as small business units and a storage/collection facility for an internet car sales company...
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Re: Shoes and Wedges

Post by f1steveuk » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:10 pm

Bugger!

Ian, I think the shoes are one of the few items that never required modification, they were in Ken's eye, perfect from day one, and they certainly did the job!

I'm fairly certain Nigel Christopher and myself copied the shoe drawings, so hopefully Bill has them to work from, it would have been nice if Vickers had re-made them, just for histories sake!
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Re: Shoes and Wedges

Post by Pullman99 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:30 pm

by f1steveuk » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:10 pm
it would have been nice if Vickers had re-made them, just for histories sake!
That's one of the problems after 56 years. Finding original equipment suppliers that are still extant. The original company's interests would now be contained within BAe Sytems I presume and that includes the works at Barrow. As successors to the original company, would it be worthwhile investigating this link further?
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Re: Shoes and Wedges

Post by f1steveuk » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:52 pm

Always worth following up these things I think. It's like Horace and Syrene Paints, right opposite Norris Bros in Burgess Hill, and until a few years ago had an original barrel of the 66/67 blue !!
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Post by turbocox » Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:42 pm

Pullman99 wrote:Hi Sreve!

I've been wondering about this issue too. When I first met with Ken Norris - at Bournemouth - he showed me a planing shoe section that he had retained and I was amazed by just how small an area the planing surface was.

I thought this was discussed before, aren't the Sponsons/shoes and the 1.1 bb mockup all burried under a building and car park?

Or am I confusing myself again :roll:
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Re: Shoes and Wedges

Post by Pullman99 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:18 pm

It's like Horace and Syrene Paints, right opposite Norris Bros in Burgess Hill, and until a few years ago had an original barrel of the 66/67 blue !!]
Mentioning which. Just wondered if there is now a definitive BS or Pantone reference number for Bluebird Blue?
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Re: Shoes and Wedges

Post by Mike Bull » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:36 pm

turbocox wrote:I thought this was discussed before, aren't the Sponsons/shoes and the 1.1 bb mockup all burried under a building and car park?

Or am I confusing myself again :roll:
This has been extensively discussed already. There's this thread, for one-

http://www.bluebirdproject.com/message/ ... ?f=2&t=245

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Re: Shoes and Wedges

Post by Mike Bull » Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:39 pm

Pullman99 wrote:
It's like Horace and Syrene Paints, right opposite Norris Bros in Burgess Hill, and until a few years ago had an original barrel of the 66/67 blue !!]
Mentioning which. Just wondered if there is now a definitive BS or Pantone reference number for Bluebird Blue?
There's at least six totally different shades of blue on the boat. Which one is 'Bluebird Blue'? :lol:

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