Richie's Little Tank

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Richie's Little Tank

Post by Richie » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:52 pm

Thought I would post up some of my efforts on the carrier from last week... Being around BBHQ has done some irreparable damage to my brain... And restoration ethos !

Long story short, my carrier was purchased with its entire top half cut off, in essence what arrived as my project was a tub with a pair of tracks. Behind the driver is a bulkhead and behind that are some armoured air intake ducts which in a crude way are designed to push air towards the fan and radiator core. My air ducts were cut to bits with a gas axe !

I did some research and a pal in Suffolk informed me of a field which was known for cutting up carriers at the end of the war (and turning them back into pots and pans no doubt) so a few years back, armed with a metal detector and a shovel we went and did some digging... And I located of all things a pair of ducts !!!!!!!!!!

They have been sat under my carrier awaiting attention since then.

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Here is the gunners side duct as removed from the ground... It has been given some light cleaning and nothing more. Note the rotted section of steel, this is 5mm mild stuff where as the other sides are a high carbon ballistic grade steel, perhaps why the other stuff has survived and this hasn't Bill will no doubt know.

Here is the remains of the same side duct that came from my carrier.
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So I went to work with a wire wheel on the grinder, and after a soak in molasses and brushed, the bits were ready to be mok'd up.

Here is the drivers side duct which I had stripped down to make patterns for other people.
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Now here is the conundrum.... Do I replace the rotted section with a total new piece of steel along with new frame rails ? Or go the difficult route and graft in a patch ? Thanks to BBP I took the latter choice
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I bolted my original duct remains, to the remains of the dug up duct to see what I had to play with, I then offered up the frame rail from the dug up duct to see where I need to make the cut.

Once I was happy where I needed to make the graft fit, I set about tidying the melted edges of the lower pannel of my original remains (that came with my carrier)
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Once that was done, it was bolted back to the armour plate and the frame rail was cut to match
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After that I added in the other plates to check my clearances and see how much new material I need to graft in

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Which amounts to a small rectangle ! The rest other than the rivets will be original 1942 !!!

Here is what it should look like (drivers side)
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And my carrier when I bought it
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Happy days. Just need to weld in the bit and rivet it up........... Just thought I would share (it's all on facepants but some of you folk aren't on there)
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Post by Mike Bull » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:21 pm

Richie wrote:Now here is the conundrum.... Do I replace the rotted section with a total new piece of steel along with new frame rails ? Or go the difficult route and graft in a patch ? Thanks to BBP I took the latter choice
Good man! Great work Rich, looking forward to seeing you trundle into the yard in it one day! :D

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Post by rob565uk » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:22 pm

Richie - fascinating stuff - I think folks would be interested in following the progress of your carrier. It deserves it's own thread I think !
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Post by Mike Bull » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:24 pm

rob565uk wrote:Richie - interesting stuff - I think folks would be interested in the progress of your carrier. It deserves it's own thread I think !
I've told him that before too!

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Post by Richie » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:27 pm

I didn't think folk would be that interested, plus it's kinda way off topic.... I am happy to bore the crap out of folk about the carrier project if there is interest :lol:
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Post by Mike Bull » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:16 am

There you are Rich, your very own thread- feel free to post away to your heart's content- your current progress, stuff already done, the carrier's history, anything you like, as little or as often as you want. 8-)

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Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:24 am

I didn't think folk would be that interested, plus it's kinda way off topic.... I am happy to bore the crap out of folk about the carrier project if there is interest
I think it's a fascinating little vehicle and it'll be even more fascinating when Rich gets around to telling you why he wants one in the first place.
The BBP team is yet to make a piece for it but I'm sure our time will come though we did develop the rivet snaps so that it's put together just as it should be.
I don't do Facebolleaux so I'll be glad to follow progress in here instead.
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Post by Richie » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:06 am

Renegadenemo wrote:
I think it's a fascinating little vehicle and it'll be even more fascinating when Rich gets around to telling you why he wants one in the first place.
The BBP team is yet to make a piece for it but I'm sure our time will come though we did develop the rivet snaps so that it's put together just as it should be.
I don't do Facebolleaux so I'll be glad to follow progress in here instead.
That would be like a diary update hahahahahaha :lol: top and bottom of the project is not unlike the K7, inspired by a great man, however this man was my hero
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Post by Richie » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:21 pm

Every child has a hero, batman ? Spider-Man ? Superman ? Wonder Woman ? Some overpaid yob nugget footballer ? Donald Campbell ?

Mine was a chap called Fusilier Kenneth Joseph Harrison, also known as "Grandad".
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He was one of those larger than life types, he was always "the champion" at this or that... What an amazing bloke.

April 1st 1989 I walked downstairs in my pyjamas where my father stood looking at me, he was quite quick with delivery "I have some bad news son........" I responded with "haha April fools", it was only when I noticed there was no joviality in response to my reply that I realised my hero was gone for ever, I was nine years old.

A few months later I recall being sat in the front room of my grandfathers house as a street load of vultures descended to see if they could come help my dad empty the place (no doubt after some free shiney's) I was sat playing with my fathers Bayko set which was awesome, when I felt a hand on my shoulder I looked up and my dad had some army kit in his hand, it was my grandfathers field compass, binoculars, stable belt, and glen Garry hat. Along with his AB 64 army pay book, currency from all over the world, and letters from his father (great grandad) My dad handed the items to me explaining that my grandad would have loved me to have these.. I looked after these items and still have them all today.

Fast forward to 2008, I had decided to research my grandfathers time during the war, as he did not talk about it to anyone no one knew anything about it ! all my dad knew was that he was with the 8th army in the desert and was a bren gun carrier driver. I later learned that my grandfather formed part of 5th division with 2nd battalion Royal Scots Fusiliers, he had literally been around the globe !!! Madagascar, Karachi, Persia, Libya, North Africa, Sicily, and Italy. He had fought in many of the campaigns, his last being in Italy where he had been re assigned to a new regiment after a spell in hospital, he had been with that regiment a day before landing on the beaches of Salerno during the avalanche landings.

During the research I began to wonder what this bren thingy was that he drove, so having looked it up I asked the question "wonder what it would be like to own and drive one of these things"..... Two years of searching the globe I had found one and had imported it back to the UK.

And so the quest had begun, to restore the machine to full working order as a replica of my grandfathers carrier T10829. The carrier will be painted as per his time with the RSF during operation Husky (Sicily)

As a living memorium to my hero, and the many other hero's he served along side, the carrier will live on, and I hope it will inspire the younger generations of our society, that we owe so much to those who we all to often cast aside.
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You can keep your footballers, and comic Lycra wearing weirdie's..... Gimme a Kenneth Harrison any day of the week.



My first time driving a carrier back in 09
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Post by rob565uk » Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:31 am

That's a great and very moving story Richie. It puts a whole new light on your project to restore the carrier. I know precious little about it really - is there a short spec you could post on here? I am interested in the engine and transmission in particular.

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