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Re: Return to the Water

Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:19 pm

if Coniston not going to allow any running is there any point displaying k7 at the Ruskin?
Don't even go there - it certainly won't be going into the Ruskin until the proving trial is completed. If there's any lengthy delay we'll just convert part of our factory into a small museum and open it to the public until everything is sorted, bit like the Jim Clark Room. That would be simple enough.

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Post by DamienB » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:20 pm

Absolutely gobsmacked that there's anything other than a permanent red carpet extended to the K7 crew. You just know the people responsible will be a handful of individuals, or one influencing a herd of sheep, bereft of common sense, vision, or indeed brains that are anything other than cells of mush addled by years of local bureaucracy. A nation of shopkeepers, I think not, a nation of naysayers and arse covering cowards mired in their own petty concerns and scared of their own shadows.

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Post by Renegadenemo » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:23 pm

Absolutely anyone with a modicum of common sense knows that it’s the right thing to do to run the old girl on Coniston
There you go - you just answered your own question. There's no common sense, so unless you know of a process to instil it in those who have none I doubt very much you'd do any better than the maestro of getting things done himself, our Malcolm.
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Post by Healey nut » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:53 pm

I sure hope it doesnt take the same length of time it took for the legendary Jim Clarke to get the recognition he rightfully deserved and the appropriate funding etc for the museum .
The whole of the K7 project should be given priority status to let them run the ceremonial run on Coniston its only fitting to do it on Coniston .
But then again as the saying goes common sense sometimes isnt very common
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Re: Return to the Water

Post by Judithjohnson7 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:13 am

My 7 year old son was inspired on a visit to coniston many years ago by the magic of bluebird, of bravery, ambition and engineering to achieve the impossible. We have followed your journey ever since. He is now an almost 19 year old apprentice engineer.
We were soooo excited to hear she was soon to take the the water. Then crestfallen to find it wouldn't be Coniston! Could we get a petition up? Would it help? Then I find it might not be in the school holidays when the proposed Coniston run next year is debated.
To whom it may concern can I say this. The world is a strange place now compared to my childhood. Kids sat in isolation playing games with virtual friends. As the proud mum of two glorious children the bluebird story inspires a can do attitude, an aspiration to achieve, an urge to go out into the world and marvel at what can be done. It would be awful to think another generation of kids couldn't be involved in this marvellous story.. sorry! Rant over.
I think the whole team should be proud of what they have achieved thus far and we thank you for keeping the dream alive xx

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Post by Renegadenemo » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:15 am

I think the important thing to remember here is that it's not a case of the proving trials never happening - they will - it's just that it's unlikely to be on Coniston Water unless something drastic changes so we shouldn't let this take our eyes off the prize. After all, Scottish lochs and English lakes look exactly the same when you stand on the beach. You just might have to drive to Scotland.

Loch Fad is stunning...

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Re: Return to the Water

Post by Techteam » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:26 am

What I find surprising, is the fact that everybody seems surprised by the attitude of the LDNPA. Having been involved in a very small way when the 10mph speed limit was first discussed on Windermere, the public enquiry and the implementation with the subsequent gutting of the marine industry on the Lake. Remember they were prepared to cut their own income drastically from the registration scheme in order to get their way. Anyway we won't drag all that up again. While I hate to admit it Bill I feel your idea to find an alternative venue is probably wise as an unelected blinkered committee is historically unlikely to respond to common sense, reason or the financial benefit of Coniston and the Lake District.

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Re: Return to the Water

Post by Malcolm Ops » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:25 am

The following is from the published minutes of the Coniston Parish Council meeting of 18th December 2017. I am posting it here as some of those following the BBP forum may not be used to Council matters.

351/2017

Bluebird Event Working Group
To report on the meeting of the Bluebird Event Working Group
Bluebird Project would like the proving trial to take place during school holidays to be age inclusive.

RESOLVED: Cllrs would like to see the event take place outside of school holidays as it would be unmanageable during this time with the number of visitors already here.

To agree how the Coniston Parish Council will support the Bluebird Event Working Group
The Working Group are looking for an event manager and the Parish Council needs to agree if they want to be the lead organisation.

RESOLVED: Cllrs agreed to continue to pay for the Clerk’s time in attending the meetings and associated admin work along with room hire charges but do not want the Parish Council to be the lead organisation.

(These words and the remainder of the CPC meeting minutes on 18/12 were accepted as a true and accurate record by Councillors at a following meeting - Malcolm).
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Re: Return to the Water

Post by Renegadenemo » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:45 am

None of this is any surprise to me, which is why we had a backup plan to go to Loch Fad. There's another backup plan for the proving trial. We had all this with the morons at the HLF. There appears to be a whole strata of people who've never done a proper job or, in fact, noticed that they ever left academia, with job descriptions that sound like 'Blue Sky Thinking Sustainability Manager'. Never had to stand or fall behind a controversial decision, dig in their heels and front some person or organisation down, only sit there pushing paper with the heating on and a kettle and a bunch of similarly ineffectual, wishy-washy colleagues for company. Throw them a difficult decision and all you get is flurries of paper and arse-covering.
Coniston simply has no leadership (Robbie Rob is a cracking guy for whom I have great respect and there are one or two others but none of them are leaders) and mostly more bothered about what the next person is getting out of any given situation to work together - watched it heading this way for years so definitely no surprises.

Now compare this to Bute, which has proper leadership. Since September they've looked at our offer at the highest level, consulted and cleared it with their community and business leaders, bottomed the environmental issues and drafted in the army. For August at the height of the summer and the holidays. Why would we waste another day (on top of the past decade) trying to batter sense into our previous partners?
Always said - strong leadership is way better than this committee nonsense. You listening, Malcolm?
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Re: Return to the Water

Post by Malcolm Ops » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:20 pm

Renegadenemo wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:45 am
Why would we waste another day ....... You listening, Malcolm?
Made myself a coffee before hitting the keys!

Bill, can I write to you in a condescending way? I just love the reaction that such paragraphs get!
[Perhaps should have put this in a PM, as forum members will wonder what has been going on within the BBP since January. Worry not folks, it is all to do with running a Crew Training Exercise first and then a Proving Trial second, probably in a different Nation State].

Some have suggested that the readership of newspapers and interweb pages can be confused. Surely they can see there is a difference betwen the CTE and the PT? (I love an acronym on a Monday). So much difference, that totally new documents have had to be prepared.

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