Lakeland Motor Museum/'Across The Lake' Mock Up

[Renegadenemo]

It's worth reading through the rest of this thread- we've covered all this ground before, up to and including being in touch with the museum, who considered the possibility and subsequently declined.

Doesn't mean all is lost. If someone can get the door open a crack, the offer still stands...

The part I really thought they'd go for was a DVD of how the part was to be treated from collecting it from the museum right through to welding and riveting it back into the boat. Something to raise real curiosity and sell in their shop.

[Digitaljunior]

As I said I'm happy to use 'my business head' to at least try with Lakeland and if not as least discover why they won't release the part.

I can't act on your behalf without authority and agreement and knowing what cards are available to play with e.g. DVD, Photos or other BB orginal parts.

I would rather 'assist' you in this rather than 'lead' this.

[Stuart Baker]

...and of course if you need any letters of support from any companies who are quietly supporting your effort...

[Terminator]

Hi Guys
As you know Bill I approached Edwin Mayer (a very nice man whom I have know as a friend for years) who was very keen to let us have the said piece back but it was up to the directors and not his call. Otherwise he would have had no problem with accepting what was offered in exchange. However as you also know he did approach the numerous directors who chose to decline the Projects offer to exchange the piece. However at that point all was not lost and I was trying to set up a meeting via Edwin to allow you to meet with the said directors and do one of your finest presentations. However before this could happen it all got rather heated on the Project forum with various comments which how can I put it "did not help the situation"! As a result of those heated comments ( which to some degree are understandable given the passion) put paid to any appeal or presentation. However if somebody can get there size 12 in the door and re open negotiations that would be fantastic but I hold little hope of that changing things. I could approach Edwin again if you so wished and try once again if you wanted me to and try and arrange a meeting but the directors are very hard to pin down in one place as I believe there are half a dozen or so?

I think it would be a great deal for both parts with what the project was offering and hope if any of the Directors are reading this thread ( which they do ) they may forgive the earlier comments through passion for our beloved Bluebird K7 and come to some acceptable arrangement.
Cheers
Novie

[Renegadenemo]

However before this could happen it all got rather heated on the Project forum with various comments which how can I put it "did not help the situation"!

And if you believe that, you'll believe anything. As is usual in these cases, all the forum did (if indeed they ever saw it as nothing to that effect was ever mentioned at the time) was hand over a convenient place to hang the blame for bureaucratic ineptitude.
There were no impassioned comments until long after their minds were made up, and let's not forget that.

Now then, Novie, if you want to go open the door a crack once more we can dream up an even more tempting offer and we can see whether supposedly responsible museum professionals place some hot air on a forum ahead of developing their display and interpretation thereof...

[malcolm uk]

Some pointers in this 'quest'.

In public always spell the name of the person you are trying to influence correctly - it is Maher. Edwin is the managing director.

Look at their Mission Statement on the website and see how many 'boxes' a joint venture project with BBP will tick.

Find out who else has to be influenced:
A Mr Nigel Wilkinson is in publicity photos as a Director when the move was made. Details should be in the public domain of all Directors if the business is registered.

Arrange a meeting when they come together for one of their normal gatherings as Directors (unless they use skype - in which case get to sit with the MD). Explain what the exchange means in £ and p to the Museum and what publicity is worth in goodwill for coming to an arrangement with the BBP.

Just a few quick thoughts - off to watch the F1 drivers start the European race.

[Renegadenemo]

Just a few quick thoughts - off to watch the F1 drivers start the European race.

Great race!

On the subject of the piece of scrap tin... I'll put it another way. We enjoy excellent collaboration with a lot of world-class sponsors. We did nothing different with regard to the piece of tin.

[Richie]

well given what you guys have achieved with much much worse material... you would make short work of re introducing this bit back to the boat...


not to chuck a cat amongst the pidgeons but as the debris forms part of the fabric of the craft.. and the craft has an owner does the debris not belong to whom ever owns the boat.


put it another way, if a car crashed on the motorway killing the driver, and the wheel came off, the wheel still belongs to the owner and owners family (NOK) of the vehicle, and until he or she relinquishes ownership of said component it still belongs to that person

[Renegadenemo]

Technically, the piece belonged to the estate of the late DMC of which Tonia is the last surviving executor, unless there's other documentation or agreements to the contrary.
It doesn't matter if Leo or anyone else had it - it' wasn't his either.
Worse still - it actually now forms part of the package of material donated to the Ruskin as the wreckage of the boat was donated from DMC's estate and so what if a piece of it happened to have been stored somewhere other than at the bottom of the lake for the intervening thirty-odd years? It actually belongs to the Ruskin if we all wanted to play lawyers.

You have to set this issue against the HLF debacle to get it in perspective.
They had in their hands a world-class project and they blew it, big-time. We knew they were wrong but at the time they had all the credibility and we had none. But I said back then that time and history would be our witness.
The difference then is that we kicked up a big stink over it but, as in this case, only well after they cocked it up. Shall we kick up another big stink? Or will we one day quietly reincorporate the piece of scrap as a retro-fit once those involved decide to do the decent thing?

[Richie]

totally agree, but from a mere pleb's perspective now is the time to get it back before the team fix the panel on, it would be a shame to have to drill out rivets etc.



so if Lakeland are reading this, from a passionate regular joe.... please please please return the fabric back to the boat from which it came....